We have a lot of overlooked fashion niches don’t we?
Plus-sized fashion is a big one.
The average weight and size of a woman is 5’4″ and 163 pounds, up from 157 pounds the year before. (Source: Wonderquest)
I’m 5’4″, and I’m 130 – 135 pounds but I look like I’m around 115 – 120 pounds sometimes.
(Don’t ask me how that is because either I’m secretly muscle-y and my muscles are just hiding from me when they need to be worked, or the weight spreads really evenly across my body. I’m leaning towards the latter.)
And even I, at that weight, have a hard time finding clothes to fit correctly.
My top 5 gripes
- Waist is too tight but it fits everywhere else
- Shoulders are too narrow (who are we using as fit models? birds?)
- Bust coverage is too low (bra always ends up showing)
- Pants don’t fit because they’re too long (Fit models are 5’7″, but I assume they want us to hem)
- Armholes are too tight
But I can imagine another overlooked fashion niche are women shorter than 5’4″ (I thought I had problems!).
Because things just look too long and big on them, or the petite sizes meant for shorter than 5’4″, are petite in overall size, not allowing for different body types or shapes in shorter women.
Until the retail industry catches up with the rest of our varying body shapes, we need to basically suck it up and figure out how to dress for what we’ve got.
With all that being said, it’s the reason why I stick to the following shapes/styles..
What I stick to:
- Wrap dresses and tops — you can adjust the waist in these most of the time
- Jersey, or fabrics with a bit of stretch
- Mid-rise pants and jeans
- V-neck clothing that stops a couple of inches below the middle of my collarbone
- Nothing strapless
I do think that retailers are leaving a big chunk of cash on the table. What I would like to see, is a store that can design real, cute clothing for ALL sizes. From 00 to 6 to 24.
And it shouldn’t be that difficult if retailers looked at it from a different perspective.
The trick is that we do NOT want to look TOO different to really stand out for the wrong reasons, like being called a fashion victim behind or backs.
Let’s face it, most of us are pretty average in our choices of clothing (or is that just me?)
I for one, am in the category of 90% of women who wouldn’t dare wear a pair of harem MC hammer pants with a saggy diaper-like bottom.
I am also a woman who would never consider wearing crochet or other see-through or sheer tops as actual clothing with nothing else on.
Or thong bikinis. You get the idea.
We’re pretty vanilla in our fashion choices
Most women en masse, are pretty vanilla.
Not all of us, but most of us.
I like stuff from Anthropologie, Jacob, J. Crew, Banana Republic, Target, Independent Designers… and so on. I consider myself to enjoy fashion quite a bit, but REAL fashion. Real individual style. All the clothes I wear are literally a canvas for the rest of my accessories, which is where (for me), true individuality emerges.
Instead of just wearing a charcoal grey suit with a pinstriped top, wearing a bold chunky necklace with it, and cute heels with an interesting piece of metal jewelery on your finger, can say a lot more about you than a boring pair of stud earrings.
If we’re all wearing the same stuff, the only thing that differentiates us, is our accessories and our attitudes.
Retailers don’t understand that they can make the same suit, but in a wide range of fabrics with little details here and there, and make a killing.
They do not need to go overboard!
Retailers use unflattering fabrics as well
One major problem is that retailers don’t pay attention to the fabrics being used (stretchy, breathable, not shiny).
Things that are too shiny, can only look decent on a couple of sizes. They aren’t wearable at any size.
Things that are too tight in terms of fabric, means you have to use MORE fabric instead of less, because there isn’t any give.
And it has a higher chance of NOT fitting someone by the nature of the fabric.
They shouldn’t stop making the classics!
There are always classic things that look good on everyone at any size and if a retailer would just focus on those same shapes and styles, and just change MINOR details like a collar, the buttons, the pleating, the pockets, and the colours or patterns… they could probably make a killing.
Tailored jackets for one, and doing them in a softer, more forgiving fabric would allow more stretch without compromising quality. And adding a cute wrap detail, or something different in the buttons or collars is enough for most women.
Another style of dress that seems to work on ALL shapes are wrap dresses because I’m a slender person but this looks good on me, AND my curvier friends. You can adjust the waist band, you feel like a woman, and it fits even when you go up or down a size.
Vests are another good bet. And so are A-line skirts.
What I’m trying to point out, is that retailers have an option.
They can sit back and try and predict what the next hot pair of harem pants are, or they can just stick to the basics in a modern woman’s fashion and make it wearable at any size, for a decent price, and with little changes here and there.
Like an added frill. Or ruffle. Or a set of buttons up the sleeve. Or a zippered skirt.
This is why I enjoy Target so much — they have all the sizes, and the fabrics are pretty much the same across all sizes, as well as the styles. They really understand the everyday woman, and it’s why it’s one of my favourite places to shop.
wow. you shop at target where clothes are made by 5 yr old slaves in china. great. i hope no fashion people ever take your advice.
Adding to the chorus of clothing gripers. These are my issues:
1) I am 6'1" and approximately 160 pounds. If it fits up top, it's way too short and if it's long enough, my ladies are flapping in the breeze.
2) Stocking manufacturers seems to think that we women top out at 5'9", so anytime I have to wear nylons, I end up walking like Dick Van Dyke during the Penguin dance sequence in Mary Poppins.
3) Everytime I go into a clothing store, I get to play the process of size elimination game because no two stores size things the same way. Am I a 6? A 10? An 8? A 12? Who knows?
4) Because I am so tall, to keep from falling over, my body gave me size 11 feet. Buying shoes that size, nine times out of 10, the shoebox is prettier than the shoes inside.
(Oh and Amen to Leigh! What is the deal with phasing out all but two colours in the winter? Maybe I don't want to wear purple and green, Jacob! Did you ever think of that?)
P.S. I believe this is my first time commenting, but love the blog! 🙂
Thank you! 🙂 Keep commenting. I love it.
I am 5'10 and 140 lbs. I can wear a small to medium top-if the sleeves are long enough! At least if you are shorter than 5'4 you can have pants hemmed. When you are tall you can not adjust the length. I have a hard time finding dresses or skirts that are not too short, due to my height. I have a small, athletic frame for my height and most of the TALL clothing starts at bigger sizes.
I also like to wear scoop neck or v neck shirts and I agree that they are too low cut so I feel like I am about to "fall out" of the shirt.
I have very similar gripes as you: shoulders too narrow, pants too long and way too tight arm holes, and something is definitely wrong at the waist. The fit can be great everywhere else and when I do up the button, instant muffin top….not a good look. And when I get it right in the waist, the rear and thigh is saggy. Very annoying.
I love clothes and shopping, but often find it frustrating.
I don't know what crochet clothing items you've been looking at, but it's clearly nothing from this century as crochet has grown a lot since the 70's and a lot of stylish clothing (which can be worn without a tank top underneath) can be made in crochet now. Crochet is not be synonymous with sheer or see-through tops.
Personally, as someone who's 5'1", I just take advantage of the fact that I can still fit size 14 or 16 girl's sizes – mostly because the clothes are cheaper because they're geared towards kids (but, as a university student, I care not about what department I get my jeans from because all I care about is the fact that they're going to cover my butt and not require me to hem a thing).
Great post!
I’m 5’2″ and 120.. it’s ridiculously difficult to find pants that are the proper length, even in the ‘short’ version. I have a pair of nice black pants that are 5 shorts.. but they’re still too long to wear with anything but my boots with 3-inch heels! I have ‘regular’ length pants that are shorter than that. >.<
On the other hand, I'm fairly thin and I have a long torso for my body, so a lot of shirts that fit properly size-wise end up being a little shorter than I'd like. I was so happy when longer t-shirts became a trend!
See I have the opposite problem – me being 5'3" and 120, I always think I'm a great candidate for Short length pants and jeans – and then then always end up being just a hair too short. I get the Regular length and have them tailored. Minor pain, but whatevs. 🙂
I always get my stuff tailored. I hear all the fit models for most clothing are 5’7″ so… 🙁
I have almost ALL the problems you listed (although I weigh much more!). As someone who LOVES fashion and trying anything and everything, it can be so hard for me to shop. But I guess I'm pretty relentless, and while there are some things I just can't pull off (hello high-waisted pants), I've been able to come close enough. Still I wish boutiques and designers would carry larger than a 10 (esp because their 10's are more like 6's) so that more people could shop.
My problem is finding stuff with a waist but enough room for my chest without showing my bra or having it divided in half horizontally! I hate boxy/baggy tops (on me, at least), but that's often the only stuff with enough space up top. I could have stuff tailored, I know, but that costs a good bit extra.
Oh, and pants that are long enough! Why can't we have as many pant length choices as men?!
I hear ya! I'm 5''2", on the small size, but not proportioned well. My bottom half is much larger than my top half. Buying shirts are no problem, but pants, ha! Forget about it. Either the waist is way too big leaving a huge gap in the back, or selecting a smaller size means not getting them up over my hips. Draw string cargo pants usually work the best for me. Luckily, I'm not very fashion savvy, so I don't complain much.
I'm 5'5", 110 -fairly tiny by most people's reckoning but I have a curvy, albeit small body. I always have trouble buying jeans. Either the waist is too large or the hips are too tight 😛
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I would tell retailers that plus size women do not want to wear UGLY clothes made from UGLY fabrics! We want to wear nice, classic clothing that's made from nice fabric. I will always pay for quality, but I really have a problem paying for UGLY …so I don't!
It’s always stumped me how they can not make a cute dress or top with just more fabric in a larger size.
Seriously, it’s not that hard!
Personally I would like to have say a size 6 actually fit across the board regardless of who makes the article be it Eddie Bauer, Levi etc. no more having to try everything on especially when it comes to pants and jeans. For me I hate having to try on 3 or more pairs of jeans just to find one that actually fits me.
Hear hear! I hate trying on jeans for that reason.
I can range from a Size 2-8. And I range from an S-L depending on the fabric
i have the opposite problem with pants because i'm 6' tall. only once in my entire life have i encountered a pair of pants too long
Try Tallgirl for pants…and if your feet are large (10-14 I think) try Tallcrest for shoes. Good quality.
Wow, you're so right. Clothing stores have ridiculous fit models. Of course, I'm 5'8" and 150 (but I too hide it – I think it's all in my butt). I have problems with pants because regulars are too short and longs and too long. I'm always hemming my pants. Plus, I have big hips. I'm not buildt like a boy – I can't tell you how many times pants fit me in the hips/tights and the waist is too big. I put on a pair of Old Navy jeans and my butt was pouring over the top like a boobs in a too small bra! LOL. Button downs, forget it. My shoulders fit, but my boobs are too small…plus, since I've got a long torso, any shirt that is supposed to be long and cover your butt – is too short. All these tunic length shirts are normal length shirts for me! Hahaha.
I too like the stores you mention and I agree – accessories are key especially to business casual. I want to wear fun trendy stuff, but I work at a conservative healthcare system and that just wouldn't fly. While I like Target, I'm having trouble with the fact that too many stores are leaning toward casual clothing. I know jeans are the fabric of our everyday lives lately, but not all of us can wear jeans everyday! It's so hard to find dress clothes that are affordable. Usually I end up making investment pieces that are classic and buying tons of cheap accessories.
HEAR THAT STORES?!? We need affordable fun and fitting business casual clothes!! hahah
I am 5'3", 120 lbs and very curvy from the waist down and I have a rather hard time finding clothes that fit properly. Even after devoting a small amount of memory to remembering how different retailers size their clothes (Uh, Banana Republic, hello? Your pants are made to fit 7 feet tall 98 lb freaks.) it is still a challenge.
At Target I can usually find tops that fit, but their non-dress bottoms tend to look very cheap. I rejoiced when modal and bamboo started being mass-produced and turning up in Target – I love the stretch and drape of it. My personal favorite are pants from Express – they are the only clothing company that makes pants which fit me near-perfectly with minimal tailoring. What I wish is that these less expensive places stop messing with the classics. I tried to purchase a cardigan from Express a few months ago and could not find one without hideously gaudy sparkly buttons. Ditto a few years ago when you couldn't find full-sleeve dress shirts – everything was 3/4. J.Crew I adore, but so pricey. I will be getting my spring chinos from them, though.
Another gripe – the uniformity of color palettes each season. All of a sudden, fantastic colors disappear because someone, somewhere decreed it's no longer the IT color. Drives. Me. Bananas. Suddenly, I am (as a natural redhead) forced to choose from an array of unflattering colors for both my skin tone and my hair color. ARGH.
I think I'm done ranting… 🙂
My biggest fashion gripe is most pants are too tight in the waist and loose/okay everywhere else. I have a tummy people! Also, a lot of shirts aren't long enough and end up looking like baby T's (not a good look for a 27 year old).
I guess since they can't make clothes tailored to everyone they go for a cut that would fit the most people possible. Doesn't seem like it's the case though. Dresses in general I've noticed work for alot of women and are very forgiving. Also, usually end up being cheaper than buying pants and a shirt combo!
This is all very true! I think that it is much more satisfying to buy well-cut, fairly classic clothes that have something interesting about them, rather than cheap, unflattering fashion-y items. (I am not as old as that makes me sound,:) I suppose that shops feel the pressure to make us buy new clothes several times a year. This year, I have spent a huge proportion of my clothes budget on having a coat made for me; I absolutely love it, it fits me, the colour is just right, and I plan to wear it forever….Maybe we should all be making our own clothes, or, in my case as I lack sewing skills, having them made for us?
I have the hardest time finding jeans/pants that fit. I'm 5'1" and curvy. I'll never fit into anything smaller than a size 7. Petites aren't made for women with hips or a bottom. I've found that Levi's 524 jeans in short fit best. Forget dress pants. There are no dress slacks made for women 5'1" unless they are a size 0.
Excellent post, FB!
You better believe I will answer your question with a post of my own! LOL I've got a lot to say on the subject.
Thanks for using all the beautiful plus-size models, too! So fab!